I can't decide... ScanGaugeII for $155 shipped or A Scaner and tuner for BiG time $$$.

Scangauge- Cheap way to monitor just about everything, but cannot tune and save files.
Scaner and Tuner- Expensive but more useful and saves buying aftermarket PCM.



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Also If you do reccomend a Scanner and Tuner, know of a fair priced one?

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OVERKILL
P4 Perilli Tires
ZZP Pacesetter Headers
Custom Cold Air
ALT 104
3.5MPS Pulley

Bump

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OVERKILL
P4 Perilli Tires
ZZP Pacesetter Headers
Custom Cold Air
ALT 104
3.5MPS Pulley

aeroforce is amazing. that and a tuner would be an awesome and useful combo

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ALL GO, LITTLE SHOW

• 2004 Comp G - Modded Like A Mofo And Hibernating

• 1988 VW Jetta - Slammed Slow And Reliable

• 1994 Cadillac Eldorado ETC - Sold

I have both, I have an HPT for tuning/scanning and a ScanGauge II for daily functions. This way I can watch KR without the laptop and power inverter in the car. Also, it very accurately reads mph and rpm (both of my needles are off because of old age) and it reads other interesting things like timing. After I got the ScanGauge II I felt comfortable adding a bunch of cruise timing and going WOT, neither of which I was comfortable doing before. Also, HPT is $500 + laptop + power inverter. So if you can't afford it right now and the money is burning a hole in your pocket get a ScanGauge II, otherwise I would recommend the Tuner first, so at least you can set up something safe (don't push the limits without a constant way to monitor- my advice) and get your car running well. Oh and you really should get a Wideband when you get a tuner, otherwise you have no idea WTF is going on...my car commands 14.7:1 AFR during normal driving...yet it normally hovers around 15.5:1...I wondered why my spark plugs were white and my car was so loud...apparently when you have the correct AFR (about 15.0:1 if you wanna save a little gas) the car is MUCH quieter. So honestly, you will probably never run the AFR you think you are running without a WB. I know it is a lot of money, right around a $800 for HPT and WB, but it so worth it. The money I spent on tuning was, and still is, well invested.

Oh and here is the short version of advice-> if you want something to monitor with, get a Scangauge II and mount it on your steering wheel column. If you want to tune your car, save up and get HPT and a WB. You will be glad you did. If you have any questions you can feel free to PM me, I'll try to check this thread soon as well.

Btw, nice Hollywood Undead avatar

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VS, 1.7's, HPTuners, PLX WB, Trannyman PB & N*

Go to E-Bay, get a $200 laptop, get a tuner, and leave it permanently mounted. Or, build a PC for the trunk, and run a screen on the dash. I personally wouldn't buy a scan guage AND a tuner. That's redundancy you don't need.

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One Big Ass Mistake America

Alright thanks, I might just go with the scanguage to save money.

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OVERKILL
P4 Perilli Tires
ZZP Pacesetter Headers
Custom Cold Air
ALT 104
3.5MPS Pulley

X2 just go with the gauge, its alot easier.
Plus im sure its gona take a while to learn how to tune it anyways... and if ur not goin deep into modding then u dont need it

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Black 06 GP GT
S2 IC, 1.9 Rockers, TOG Headers w/ full custom exhaust, CAI, 104 Autolites, Custom Tuned PCM, 3.3....
And still Working its way up....