Do i have to tune my transmission if I do the zzp kit?
I am thinking about taking it to a shop to get the pan dropped, filters changed and the kit installed.
How much should i be looking at for all of this?

some shops might not install it. better call around and ask

but no a tune is not required

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

how well does it work w/o the tune... cuz some people have been saying you can barley feel it without increased line pressure

It will work fine without a tune. I would recommend either the transgo or the intense kit over the ZZP kit. The intense kit is the most complete kit. The ZZP kit is uses plastic spacers and the intense kit uses metal spacers. The transgo is not a performance shift kit but rather a shift improvement kit with no spacers. But to answer your question you will be able to notice a difference with the kit installed. As stated some shops may not install the kit.

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im going with the DIY kit. spacers off mcmaster-carr are like $12 shipped, and a 2-3 spring, replacing the 1-2 is like 8bucks at local dealership, i got the spacers waiting for the spring now, then ill just drop the pan, pull the accumulator swap springs, insert spacers and put it all back together, add fluid and done. im yet to do it still but others say it performs just as well as the $100 shift kits.. for under $20. if you have local places cheaper you can for around $10.

just an option.. saving money, take ya a half hour, maybe less. really not a difficult mod, the write up covers everything. no tune required. and im assueming a shop would charge you at least $20 labor just installing the kit.. lol fluid and filter everything your probably over $100 bucks having a shop do it, plus price of the kit.

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hardest part is getting the fluid to fall in a drain pan lol

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

that part is next to impossible lol your going to make a mess just gotta try and get the back down working towards the front let it all run one way.. Also its probably a good idea to let the tranz cool a bit =)

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Do not buy the zzp shift kit. I used it and just recently replaced it with intense and its so much better. Also the zzp shims were mushrooming only after 6 months

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I'm buying the intense for when I fix my damn trans pan (its bent and leaking) I have the zzp and i'm not impressed and don't trust the plastic with my already increased line pressure.

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why dont you do your own shift kit? buy spacers and replace the 1-2 spring with a 2-3 spring? i did it, went with medium, it deffinently shifts faster, not a lot harder then stock really, but the hard kit, basically just longer spacers, is supposed to be rather hard quick shift.

obviously the harder the shift, the harder it is on HARD internals, like sprags and gears. however it does increase clutch life, because the shifts are faster and firmer. less clutch wear.

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You don't even have to replace the springs if you don't want to, just the spacers. The Intense kit looks awesome though and if I had a 65 I'd totally go with that one... unfortunately... the miss is stuck with a 4T60.

As for actually installing it... as WBS says, can you change your own oil? Haha. You'll spend more time driving to and from the shop than it would actually take you to drop the pan, install spacers and filter, and put everything back together.

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ya i can do my own oil..... with the cold I really dont want to deal with dropping the pan. I can get the pan dropped, fluid and filters changed and kit installed for 120.

Get that fixed ASAP! With you having a hole to leak in the pan your allowing fluid loss and air replacing it which will cause cavitation. Basically while the fluid and air is being pumped through your trans a tiny bubble forms, which pops and forms more tiny bubbles and this goes on and on. Cavitation is bad so fix it as soon as you can.

Heres what the intense kit looks like before you put it back in(the white shims are zzp's).

http://gpdiy.org/files/IMG_20110116_214420.jpeg

and heres the zzp shims, you can see the mushrooming

http://gpdiy.org/files/IMG_20110116_235757.jpeg

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Whoah!!! Derek learned a new word
j/k, but seriously though. He knows what he's talking about.

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GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

Stock N/A trans with ZZP shift kit in mine. Had the kit in there about 40k. No problems for me.

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Dave, I swear, you're car is the exception to everything

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GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

LOL. I am beginning to think the same.

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Best Trap 115.56 MPH

I've also been running a zzp shift kit in mine with a couple of upgraded hard parts and clutches. Been in there for around 20k if not longer. Thinking of taking it out and adding bigger spacers for for even harder shifts. It shifts pretty firm already, but I want it to break necks.

Milestone

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Hey I did learn something in school!

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