i finally found a car with a Getrag 282 in it. its a J body, so i gata make a lot of stuff custom. o well what would be the fun of having everything bolt right up?

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everything works but the brakes and the ignition switch is gone so you have to hold the key when you drive it. i got tire spin in 1st with my dad on my road without poping the clutch...i cant waaaaait to see what it dose in the GP. im really really excited....before i start i want to thank GP chris for all the help so far on this and i know he will be an even bigger help in the future

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Good luck with the project. Take tons and tons of pics and keep everyone updated.

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youre gonna need to beef up that tranny quite a bit. the getrag wont stand up to a car this heavy for too long.

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Sold: 06 Cobalt SS/SC, 99 GTP 245WHP/326 Ft-lbs, 06 R6

the car is bone stock tho

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talk to the fiero swap guys, they have soem good info on where to get good parts. the weight difference is just too much for the tranny to handle in stock form, power adders or not.

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Sold: 06 Cobalt SS/SC, 99 GTP 245WHP/326 Ft-lbs, 06 R6

Im sorry kyle but dont post shit unless you can back it up... Fieros weigh almost as much as our w-bodys and they are throwing 500+hp at 282s with stock internals. I see it all the time, they break the CASE of the tranny before the internals. Just gotta mount it in multiple spots and it will hold good for even 350 whp without any upgrading.. Anything past 350whp I would suggest upgrading the axles and diff.

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They used the 282 and 284 in the first gen W-body cars, too, don't forget.

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you sir are my hero

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w0000!

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since when does a sub 3000lb car weigh the same as my 3900lb car?

im sorry but ive talked to fiero swap guys at car shows and also a failed getrag 282 grand prix swap guy and this is what they told me, so you can explain to me where youre getting your info from.

if ive been misinformed then i appologize, but youre being an prick about it. and just so you know, i was talking about l67 swapped fieros because we all know a stock fiero cant get out of its own way, i possibly should have mentioned that. some fieros had the 282 stock, but when the guys put the l67's in they ended up having to get hardened parts. you realize a stock l67 in a fiero will give you a 12 second car easy? weight makes that difference.

i wasnt bashing, i was only trying to help, but i guess you guys have it all covered, so good luck with the swap.

peace out.



what that even supposed to mean? whatever dude.

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Sold: 06 Cobalt SS/SC, 99 GTP 245WHP/326 Ft-lbs, 06 R6

Ok kyle I admit to being an asshole but what I said was true.. Somebody once had their monte carlo weighed, completely stock with the heavy 3.4ldohc, a half tank of gas and a 240lb driver it was only 3450lbs. Now take the driver out, drop the autotrans for a manual, put a ligher engine in (l67) and you get like 3000 lbs.. Fieros weigh just around 3000lbs...... Obviously weight differences will NOT be an issue. The only issues will be axles and the diff, but that wont be a problem under 350whp. Some say syncros but the only way the syncros will fail is if your retarded and dont know how to drive a stick.

I know many local fiero swappers. So I know first hand what these trannys can take..

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what that even supposed to mean? whatever dude.[/quote]


just tryin to crumble your cookies

like always

whats up?

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(not tryign to argue, just questioning)

what year monte? cause the late model (like 200-2004 montes) weighed even more than a gp.

but isnt this trans going into a grand prix? the lightest ones are like 3700 something pounds unless you do weight reduction. youre only gonna drop o total of maybe 100 lbs after the tranny is swapped out. it can be done, but i dont want to see someone break more than they have to. look at njbrian's swap, his car is just a gt and the axels cant stand up to his cars power.

you could go "ron vogel" on the car and make it weight close to (i think his was, correct me if im wrong) 3200lbs race weight and still streetable, but thats highly impractical. liek is said, its not liek it cant be done, but stuff is could break. this is true with all modding though. i guess he'll find out after he does the swap. maybe he'll get lucky and it will hold up, maybe somethign will give and he'll fix it as needed.

my point was to ask the fiero swap guys where to get good getrag 282 parts. i dont know what you'll need, and they wont either, but they probably know some vendors that we dont that will be very helpful if needed. thats all.

once again, good luck with the swap. keep us all updated.

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Sold: 06 Cobalt SS/SC, 99 GTP 245WHP/326 Ft-lbs, 06 R6

Not sure about second gens but first gen montes are pretty much the exact same car as the gp's. They would weigh the same. As for njbrain he breaks welded axles.. Its impossible for welded axles to hold under much of any power because they only have the weld line holding them together a factory axle has the enitre thickness of the rod holding in it one peice not just a outter weld line like the modified ones.

Btw race weight is with driver, so thats usually about 200lbs above actual curb weight

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my Prix on the registration weights 3484. just tossin that out there for the hell of it..

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wow. is that dry?

my car with my in it is like 3850 lbs with full fluids.


options have a lot to do with it too i guess, the sc adds weight, sunroofs ad a little (not much, nto enough to be worth deleteing it), and stuff like that.

maybe my car is just a fatso

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Sold: 06 Cobalt SS/SC, 99 GTP 245WHP/326 Ft-lbs, 06 R6

i dont know how they weighed it. thats just whats printed on the registration.
well i scanned the registration:


im done with the thread jack. lol

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Mu Cutty weighs 3740 with me (240 @ the time), full interior, and an 1/8th tank of fuel. This is with the L67 versus the 3100. Obviously, the 3100 is lighter, so my car GAINED weight with the driveline swap.

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Fiero w/ an l67 weighs less than a GP w/ an l67.

Fiero's averaged about 2650 lbs (ranged from roughly 2500-2800 lbs).

Show me a GP w/ an l67 that weighs under 2800 lbs that still has all the options and i'll believe they are just as fast.

woot the tranny hasnt even been riped out yet and im already getting fights about it. but lets point this out. there is a sucessfull Cutlass twincharged l67 with a 282 in it and all he has is a F body flywheel and a stage 3 clutch. so im pritty sure a stock l67 wont kill this tranny. im not going to beet on it or race or anything till its in there, the clutch is broken in (my friend got a stage 3 in his audi and it said about 500 miles) even then the engine still needs some work (coolant oil pan gasket major major tune up) but ya i only got about 600 bucks right now but once i get rid of the crappalier and the passat i should have about 1500 to my name again with the added 6 2100 bucks but then i need to get another DD which i have one lined up for 900. now i dont want any more fighting about this, i really aprieacate your input tho just dont be dicks about it. i got it all under control i have 4 trained ASE certafied mechanics plus everyone on here and what i know (which isnt much) but if i blow the tranny i blow the tranny. im expecting things to go wrong. its rarely been done before so im going to take my time. this isnt grand turismo people, it isnt as easy chosing automatic or manual.


wish life was like that. OR. if GM was going to offer a supercharged family car, make a few that are standards

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hmmm d00d they aren't making standard camaros

taht said my curb weight is 5656 lbs

your cars are little piggies

and my bed was loaded up

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when i took scrap to the junk yard they waighd my car it is 3667 or 3527 with out me in it a full tank and a supercharger but my car is basic i have a power seat windows and heated mirrors the Diplomat waighs 3670 with me and a full tank

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dosnt matter. with the 500 HP in a fierro nd 240 in a GP it about evens up

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just checking in with everyone, this project is not dead. i FINALLY got the car the 11 mile drive to my work. had it towed, the 1st truck i was ganna use woulda had the bumper riped off with the trailer alone, the 2ed wasnt availible so i bit the bullet and paid the 60 bucks to have it flat beded to my work. now hopefully the crappaliers tranny will be dropped soon, riped apart and junked/parted out. as for the pontiac she is still being driven every day. the passat needs a rim, tire and some minor work to the heating system and is somewhat for sale (im not selling it in its current condition). anyway right now the only lift i can drop a tranny on is being used for another tranny job on a truck, so maybe that will get finished this week (probibly not, im not at that shop during the week) ive been going through a lot of stuff right now and it would be nice to tinker with something to get my mind off stuff, so im hoping over the weekend to do the drop.


like i said ill keep everyone posted

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Let us know. Count on having as great of problems as I did. It sure is satisfying to know that I got this all done, and it will be just as satisfying for you. Go for it man!

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