how to do a water pump under - drive pully ? can some one plese put some instructions, pics and list of materials needed thanks

It's 4 bolts. Easy peasy. Leave belt on, break bolts lose, take belt off, remove bolts and pulley, install UD pulley, snug bolts, put belt on, tighten bolts to 115in/lbs.

Having said that, I would NOT run a UD W/P pulley ever!!!!! Why decrease the efficiency of one of the most crucial engine systems just to gain 1 or 2 HP, gains which could negate the UD due to higher ECT's and thus more potential to knock. Keep stock pulley and call it a day. It's not worth 70 bucks ZZP wants and not worth degrading a key engine component in a DD.

So about that cam install...

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

about the cam today a custumer just walked in and asked what were to happen if he started modding his car with engien internals first before any other mods and yes the car is all stock 05 gtp he wonted to pullout the engien before anything and put in a rebuild kit and a vs cam and springs and aluminum valve covers

what should i respont next time i am asked this question

What is your job that you have all these people asking you these type questions yet you don't even know how to take off 4 W/P bolts? Hope your doing some reading on how to do YOUR cam install

And why rebuild the motor/beef up the bottom end just to run a cam other than the fact that removing the engine is one way to install a cam (but the engine can also be lowered and not completely removed, obviously an easier and quicker solution if only wanting to install a cam)? If the bottom end is fine, don't touch it IMO because if one of his supporting mods is "aluminum valve covers" then I'm highly doubting he has the know how to overhaul a 3800

This whole my car/customer car stuff is also getting really confusing in your threads

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

I smell a troll......

I feel bad for said customers haha

_________________

Gt2256v, FMIC, Port & Polish Head, Stage 2 Colt Cam. Rosten Rods, PD150 Pistons, Oil Cooler, Fuel Cooler, Diablo W/M kit, Built 5 speed with LSD
I work on enough GP's to know I don't want to own one =P

I smell something else..... oh wait, nevermind. It's just the nerd next to me who doesn't know what a shower is
I don't care what degree he'll obtain from this university, no company is going to hire someone who can't take care of themselves (and no he's not of any ethnicity that frowns upon deodorant haha)

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

engien does not have to removed for a cam. remove passenger strut assembly lower passenger side of engine. install through wheel well opening

_________________

92 LeBaron Convert: Turbo 3L 97 Grand Prix GT 4dr "Frankenstein": L67 4t65 swap
97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

Yuppers, just make sure you put everything back together correctly.... unlike Derek or you'll be doing it all again in a couple months

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

i work at o'rillys my cousins the manager an he got me the job im an audio guy trying to lear some engien stuff no troll here

oh and the custumer wonted to pullout the motor to clean it and rebuild couse of high mileage 245000miles

as for my cars cam im guna leave it to the pros and pay for the install

Cant fault someone for trying to learn. Atleast you are asking questions instead of going out there blind and messing something up.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk

_________________

Truth. Just sort of unsettling since I was assuming he was doing his cam install himself then this sort of question pops up Cleary Ass = Me

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

well matt should teach you to ASSume now wount it

_________________

92 LeBaron Convert: Turbo 3L 97 Grand Prix GT 4dr "Frankenstein": L67 4t65 swap
97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

ok so back to the topic what advice do you guys have for me interms of helping out the client?

I wouldnt waste the money on a rebuild. I would just source a low mileage short block from a salvage yard and build on that. These engines are a dime a dozen and can be had for cheap. Also due to how these engines are assembled most engine rebuilds end up with and engine failure.

Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk

_________________

yup most rebuilt engines tend to fail. no idea why but i have never seen a rebuilt 3800 last

_________________

92 LeBaron Convert: Turbo 3L 97 Grand Prix GT 4dr "Frankenstein": L67 4t65 swap
97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

ok thanks for the knowledge now i have the ansure to a good custumer just incase of a further ansure were can someone find a low mile shortblock 3800 and around what price

Morad Parts Company. I'd go check their prices right now but they are currently in the middle of overhauling their ebay site.

_________________

Dubs:00 VW GTI VR6, Low and Slow 91 VW GTI 8v, Shave the Bay!! 91 VW Cabriolet 8v, bitch Basket
GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"