Good day,

Does it really make a difference to use a CAI versus a HAI for a supercharged engine? I have read some bit and pieces on this site about CAIs and that some people think they help while others do not think they help.

I am just curious is all...since the supercharger would heat up the intake air anyway right?

For a supercharged engine ... and potential cAI or HAI intake applications, would it be better to have lower volume of air that is colder versus more volume of air that is hotter?

Thanks.

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2009 G8 GT -Sport and Premium Pkgs, Roto-Fab CAI, Cortex 93 Octane Tune, Billet Prototype Catch Can, BMR Front and Rear Sways, BMR RTAs, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Steering Rack Bushing, GXP SW......and much more to come.

I have a CAI for mine. I have it because it looks pretty.

I've seen somewhere on here that it literally makes no difference. I like to think so, only to justify my $200 intake. If anything, I think the HAI performed better.............

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on grand prix forums there was a guy that dyno'd w/ his CAI and a TB Cone intake and the TB one gave 3 - 5 more HP

also after a 3.2 pulley a CAI is useless

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the M90 heats up the incoming air so much it is nall and void on any gains after a 3.2 pulley

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

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So is the verdict that if you have a 3.2 pulley and below, any CAI will be just about worthless, and if you have a 3.4 pulley and above, you could see some performance improvements with a CAI??

Hmm....wish we had some established recommendations from Eaton on this subject.

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2009 G8 GT -Sport and Premium Pkgs, Roto-Fab CAI, Cortex 93 Octane Tune, Billet Prototype Catch Can, BMR Front and Rear Sways, BMR RTAs, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Steering Rack Bushing, GXP SW......and much more to come.

Intercooler what?

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a CAI is actualy not that helpful when moving. it realy only does any thing witht he car sitting still

my IAT with the white car did not change much at speed between a CAI and a cone on a tube. and event hen it was only at idle as soon as a i went 20mph the IAT went done

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

I guess that could be an established recommendation from Eaton

But if that were the case, that would dictate that the colder the air, the better the performance, with a supercharged engine..... even though the supercharger warms it right back up.

Beyond the intercooler solution.....I have not seen a true CAI online here that really isolates the CAI from the heat soak of an engine....maybe a FWI? .

All quite intriguing.....I would like to learn more...

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2009 G8 GT -Sport and Premium Pkgs, Roto-Fab CAI, Cortex 93 Octane Tune, Billet Prototype Catch Can, BMR Front and Rear Sways, BMR RTAs, BMR Rear Cradle Bushings, BMR Steering Rack Bushing, GXP SW......and much more to come.

FWI have there own issues

i would never have one a dalily driver. we get some deep puddles and i get water in the engine compartment as it



the only reason the 2000 is getting a CAI with a box is becuae of the hood

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

I hate FWI's. Dirtier air, water being able to get sucked up if you hit a big puddle (which trust me isn't fun), harder to remove to clean, etc.

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GP's:04 GP GT, Past now G-Ma's Girlfriend's 97 GP GT, "Project Pink Power"

MY OLD FWI ON THE PREVIOUS GTP WAS SO HARD TO GET TO I HAD TO REMOVE THE FENDER TO have it fit right

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I waisted $200+ on my first GP which was the N/A 3800. On my 2nd GP (lol) I spent $40 on the filter in the pic. Works great. I've scanned and only had a very tiny amount of kr for all of a split second. Im happy with mine the way it is. Plus, no water gets sucked up like what may happen with a fwi. I unbloted half of the air box and left the half the houses the pcm. I use a Spectur with an open flange that fits snugly behind the opening when the fresh air would enter the air box.



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I take it this doesn't apply for NA guys?

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My CAI works with my hood. Inferno hood hole goes right to the CAI.

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I paid like $40 bucks for a used thrasher cai so I will use it just because. But I will have ic too so my hope is that if I can get cooler air INTO the ic that I will get better results coming out.

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2002 40th GTP sedan mostly stock

N/A there is a diffrence becuase the enigne can actualy get cool air intot he combustion chamber

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

Gains would be minimal regardless which way you play it. The difference is so small that you wouldn't notice difference either way. Honelsty I would even say so much so that you wouldn't see any difference in track times either.

I personally prefer a FWI anyways just for looks. Cleans up the engine bay, and the blower sounds louder.

We can all agree on one thing... Anything is better than te stock system.

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1997 TGP

actualy on a N/A engien you cans ee a gian of 3-5hp witha CAI vs an unsealed cone

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97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

It's so small you wouldn't notice a difference butt dyno or track outing.

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1997 TGP

3-5hp is 2mph at the big end of the 1/4 that is noiticable. becuase buy your math a intake of any kind on a GP is pointless becuase you get a MAX of 10hp no matter what intake you use and that is max

the stock systemis not as crappy as you think if you just cut the front of the box open a bit

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