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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:42 am 
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Back on October 1st, 2011 Obama signed an Internet Treaty that allows other countries like China to remove any site any where in the world that they want. The content will be wiped from the servers with no legal proceeding. Only the Senate can ratify treaties, so he called it an Executive Agreement to get around the Senate.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:07 am 
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I figured it would start to spiral down. I guess we will see if any of this stuff actually sticks or gets worse. They obviously don't know the right way to handle these things..

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Sounds like we may have an internet war on our hands soon.

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What a f*c*i*g disaster this guy has created..

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:34 pm 
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The scary part is...he may get re-elected. The Republicans needs a solid candidate...and I'm not convinced we have one, yet!

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Check out the protect t children from Internet pornographers act of 2011

Talk about screwing over your rights

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I posted this in one of the SOPA threads the other day.

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welp i'm bustin out the HAM radio getting the old panhandle back into use haha, shotguns at the ready gentlmen, no one can haz my internets :P

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:57 pm 
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What's yer callsign? I'm pretty active locally but not on any bands that can reach OH simplex.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:50 pm 
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the HAM i've never been established always just went by sanctus though, silverbullet/deathtrap/robodude is what you'll hear them call me if your in ohio on CB :] death trap being related to an older car i used to have haha

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Oh you're talking CB. I thought you were talking Amatuer Radio (which requires an FCC license). Nevermind then. Even operating simplex (without using a repeater), Ham radios have FAR greater range than CBs do. Some bands are capable of using atmospheric skip (namely 10 meter and longer wavelengths) to reach around the world. Even the shorter wavelengths (2 meter and 70 cm) can reach 30-50 miles simplex if the radio is strong enough. I've hit repeaters from 30 miles away with my little handheld 2 meter radio.

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I f*c*i*g hate executive orders. It's a way for the president to flex his muscle, and a way to avoid the balance of power. Seriously, he has been one of the WORST presidents.

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^i don't know about worst lol i do believe there have been worse presidents, now do i agree with almost any of it? no, politics to me is just a game for bored rich folk to play, i'm screwed either way haha

as far as HAM and CB i was indeed under the assumption that it was the internet radio shows you can do fo free :] (yea for obliviousness i presume) would be pretty sweet to do something that could reach that far, would i be able to set it up like a cb in my car sarge?

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Don't forget about all the idiot congressmen/women. :lol: They aren't helping any of Obama's situation. And with that I'm not getting into a party battle ;-)

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you do relise if obama did nto sign it he would of gotten on lot of flack and hate from other countries it was more of a forgien relations move then any thing else

i am 99% sure a rebulican presidant would of signed the treaty as well in the same situation. it has nothing to to with party

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Mater wrote:
it has nothing to to with party

Too bad many people will never see it that way :cool:

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Mater wrote:
you do relise if obama did nto sign it he would of gotten on lot of flack and hate from other countries it was more of a forgien relations move then any thing else

i am 99% sure a rebulican presidant would of signed the treaty as well in the same situation. it has nothing to to with party

Yup. It amazes me how people miss this fact.

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Im a Republican most of the time and almost never agree with democrats, however I do agree that a republican would have signed it to. Im different not blind lol.

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Well you need to compromise when you spend trillions of dollars and then have China buy your debt.. I would have signed it too, So they don't nuke the United States.

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you do relise most of the debt was from bills and polices bush enacted and was still bush administration spending.

and would you rather of had china buy or debt or go to bankrupcy? agina i think a republican would of done the exact same things int he same situation

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Well you need to compromise when you spend trillions of dollars and then have China buy your debt.. I would have signed it too, So they don't nuke the United States.

Nail...on...head.

I had an epiphany the other day regarding this. One way or another, they'll get SOMETHING passed and start shutting down websites and so on. Then a "new internet" will rise up to take its place and we're back to square one.

Also, remember when we used to make dub cassettes of a friends tape back in the day? Average people not giving a rip about copyrighted movies or music was around WAY before the internet. It WILL continue. Fact of life.

And, even if they shut down the whole internet, we may have to go back to what... going outside and talking to real people? Real conversation??? NOOOOOOOOO!


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you do relise most of the debt was from bills and polices bush enacted and was still bush administration spending.

and would you rather of had china buy or debt or go to bankrupcy? agina i think a republican would of done the exact same things int he same situation


This ball has been rolling for decades. It's just been picking up pace in the last 20 years and especially the last 5+ years. Just like a ball rolling downhill picks up momentum.

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you do relise most of the debt was from bills and polices bush enacted and was still bush administration spending.

and would you rather of had china buy or debt or go to bankrupcy? agina i think a republican would of done the exact same things int he same situation


So the president though that spending more money was going to help? Are you shitting me? That is what I heard for the past 3 years.. Enough is enough, The guy didn't do shit to help the economy. f*c*i*g left wingers should listen to themselves once and awhile and think outside the box. :roll:

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Mater wrote:
you do relise most of the debt was from bills and polices bush enacted and was still bush administration spending.

and would you rather of had china buy or debt or go to bankrupcy? agina i think a republican would of done the exact same things int he same situation


So the president though that spending more money was going to help? Are you shitting me? That is what I heard for the past 3 years.. Enough is enough, The guy didn't do shit to help the economy. f*c*i*g left wingers should listen to themselves once and awhile and think outside the box. :roll:


so would you rather our solders not get paid then? our unemployed loose every thing? the elderly not get care? money to support them has to come from some ware and at the time a massive with draw would of done way more harm then good.

you really have too look at the shit hand he was delt. it was not even all of bush's fault it was congress that it why i said administration as bush had little to do with it but starting the "police actions"

Obama can only do so much with spending congress is the one that votes on it not the presidant the presidant doese nothing with the budget he has no controle over it. so blaming it on the cirrent presidant is not going to fix it you have to look at who voted on the budget and where they allow cated the spending and get the idiots out of congress and stop focusing all the blame on the glorifide figure head

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Mater wrote:
you do relise most of the debt was from bills and polices bush enacted and was still bush administration spending.

and would you rather of had china buy or debt or go to bankrupcy? agina i think a republican would of done the exact same things int he same situation


So the president though that spending more money was going to help? Are you shitting me? That is what I heard for the past 3 years.. Enough is enough, The guy didn't do shit to help the economy. f*c*i*g left wingers should listen to themselves once and awhile and think outside the box. :roll:

See, you're advocating that people step outside of their entrenched beliefs because you are so entrenched in yours. This is why nothing ever gets done-there is NO spirit of compromise in the best interests of the people.

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