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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:29 pm 
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well iv seen some good things about seafoam also good reviews i was just thinking of cleaning it up a bit. maybe i shouldnt atleast i know the outcomes of what can happen if i do but i guess i wont.


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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:47 pm 
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seafoam works great when put in the tank to clean the injectors and to use it to clean the intake by sucking it in a vacume line

agian though what is the milage on your car

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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http://www.seafoamsales.com/tech-info-gas-engines/
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As a pre service cleaner for old oil residue, sticky rings or valve train noise, pour 1 ½ ounces of Sea Foam® Motor Treatment into the engine oil crankcase for EACH quart of oil capacity, including filter. Drive a MINIMUM of 30 minutes/miles, MAXIMUM 100 miles, and then do your oil change service – Lube, Oil & Filter (LOF). This begins the process of safely/slowly re liquefying the old oil residue so contaminants may flow and be filtered. This also makes your old oil dirtier, quickly, so a LOF service is necessary when the oil gets dirty. Great for Turbocharged & Supercharged applications where oils deteriorate so quickly due to heat, and leave those residues that NEED CLEANING.

http://www.seafoamsales.com/gasoline-engine-faqs.html
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Sea Foam® is composed solely of three specially blended petroleum oils – each having specific functions such as lubricating, cleaning or moisture control. There are no other chemicals (not even color dyes) included in the formulation. Being of the same basic petroleum chemistry as the motor oils and gasoline you already use in your engine, Sea Foam® is completely compatible with all engine components, fuels, lubricants and other additives you may have in your engine. Sea Foam® will not damage gaskets or seals, and will not interact in a negative way with motor oil or fuel, or the additives used in them.

SeaFoam is OIL!

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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^^ This is called company FUD and is used to make you believe anything!

Where on earth (minus the fact both products come from crude) Would you think oil and gasoline are the same thing!

Mater is right here, Sea Foam is a Snake oil product sold to make you think it helps your car at best, and it's not a lubricant.... It like taking a placebo pill and saying it made you feel better. Gas is not a lubricant in anyway, and Oil (lets not fight semantics here) isn't or shouldn't be used in your gasoline combustion motor as anything other than a lubricant. Therefore how is Seafoam supposed to interact with both with no adverse effects?

Shell gasonline hell even BP already (in fact every station does now) adds their own detergents/chemicals to the tanks to clean your injectors and your intake valves... and if your T/B is clogging that much from EGR then take it apart and clean the damn thing. Sea Foam (I've tested this with sea foam and purple power) Will not break down the gunk in your intake by simply sucking it in the brake vac line then letting it sit for 5 mintues then starting the motor back up. I didn't actually use either of them with the intake on the car, I had my grandmas camry intake off and was soaking it to see what would get the junk off... both worked... both required multiple applications and some scrubbing.


And the stuff it does break loose is sucked into your prestine motor!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT??! Simple, take the intake of your car and clean it... or leave it the kcuf alone.

Sorry for the rant, just really hate to see someone screw their motor up over something so simple. Like Mater said, 1/4 can tops... and >10 miles.... but personally I wouldn't use it at all

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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seafoam is mostly water. how it cleans is by steam that is why it smokes when dumped into the intake via vac line (same thing the dealers do but they uses a heavy dudty cleaner as well that is costic). it also has some patrolium in it but patrolium is also in soap.

seafoam is basicly soapy water. i use it but i do nto dump a crap ton down in the oil pan only an 1/8-1/4 i like steve said perfer trany fluid becuase of the high detergant (ever look in side a good trans the parts look new even if the outside looks like junk)


and onto the gas "detergants" sense you brought it up. is ethanol... yup ethanol E10 the alchohal cleans out the tank and junk main reason e85 convertions have some issues it massivly cleans out the fuel lines and clogs things

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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keebler145 wrote:
Shell gasonline hell even BP already (in fact every station does now) adds their own detergents/chemicals to the tanks to clean your injectors and your intake valves... and if your T/B is clogging that much from EGR then take it apart and clean the damn thing. Sea Foam (I've tested this with sea foam and purple power) Will not break down the gunk in your intake by simply sucking it in the brake vac line then letting it sit for 5 mintues then starting the motor back up. I didn't actually use either of them with the intake on the car, I had my grandmas camry intake off and was soaking it to see what would get the junk off... both worked... both required multiple applications and some scrubbing.


And the stuff it does break loose is sucked into your prestine motor!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT??! Simple, take the intake of your car and clean it... or leave it the kcuf alone.

Sorry for the rant, just really hate to see someone screw their motor up over something so simple. Like Mater said, 1/4 can tops... and >10 miles.... but personally I wouldn't use it at all


well the intake you are supposed to run the motor till it's at running temp, then have it suck it in through the vac line to burn up and clean everything
if everything was cold it wouldn't do shit
and my motor is far from pristine

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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Seafoam isn't mostly water. The Seafoam FAQ says its made of three specially blended petroleum oils, which is true. Its made up of pale oil (lubrication), Naphtha (cleaning), and isopropyl alcohol (moisture control)


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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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we did some tsting at my shop and we are pretty confidant it is mostly water. when put on a stove it boiled like water and evaporated like water leaving about 20% left

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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Probably the alcohol boiling out Tom.

-- Mon Oct 03, 2011 2:35 pm --

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^^ This is called company FUD and is used to make you believe anything!

Where on earth (minus the fact both products come from crude) Would you think oil and gasoline are the same thing!

Mater is right here, Sea Foam is a Snake oil product sold to make you think it helps your car at best, and it's not a lubricant.... It like taking a placebo pill and saying it made you feel better. Gas is not a lubricant in anyway, and Oil (lets not fight semantics here) isn't or shouldn't be used in your gasoline combustion motor as anything other than a lubricant. Therefore how is Seafoam supposed to interact with both with no adverse effects?

Shell gasonline hell even BP already (in fact every station does now) adds their own detergents/chemicals to the tanks to clean your injectors and your intake valves... and if your T/B is clogging that much from EGR then take it apart and clean the damn thing. Sea Foam (I've tested this with sea foam and purple power) Will not break down the gunk in your intake by simply sucking it in the brake vac line then letting it sit for 5 mintues then starting the motor back up. I didn't actually use either of them with the intake on the car, I had my grandmas camry intake off and was soaking it to see what would get the junk off... both worked... both required multiple applications and some scrubbing.


And the stuff it does break loose is sucked into your prestine motor!! WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT??! Simple, take the intake of your car and clean it... or leave it the kcuf alone.

Sorry for the rant, just really hate to see someone screw their motor up over something so simple. Like Mater said, 1/4 can tops... and >10 miles.... but personally I wouldn't use it at all


I don't think anyone is saying that oil and gas are the same thing, we're just saying that they can both be mixed with seafoam. Like I said, the only thing that makes me say don't put it in the oil is that it's not needed. A good oil takes care of all the problems seafoam does and it doesn't cause oil to break down because it is the oil.

Think of seafoam as mixing gas with the oil. Gas would clean deposits but would also severely impact the lubricating properties of the oil and cause it to sheer off to a lower weight.

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Kyle_99_gtp wrote:
A god oil takes care of all the problems

so where does one buy a god oil kyle

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Kyle_99_gtp wrote:
A god oil takes care of all the problems

so where does one buy a god oil kyle


Sorry, meant to say cod oil, like from a fish.

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Well, this thread got interesting :glasses7:

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 Post subject: Re: Seafoam+ Oilchange ?
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^ sheit i gutta agree this stuff is interesting but as some said dont have to put it in then i guess not maybe just a simple oil change and call it a day. good facts though guys !


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