The insulator for my intake finally arrived thus finishing off the intake portion of the car. Intake temps stay down pretty well when rolling, however I still think there is a heat soak issue when at idle. The motor needs to held in place more so I believe new motor mounts, tranny mount and poly mounts will be in order for next mods. Hopefully that will reduce some KR I'm seeing that is non-mechanical (as in KR that does not increase from higher rpm's but just appears briefly when engine rocks).

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Poly mounts will def reduce your KR. I just recently flipped em on two different cars and reduced kr completely.

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VS CAM|3.4|HEADERS|FWI|42.5#|HPT|6000k LOWS|8000k FOGS|

Try to see if you can get some insolating material like in the wizard intake- should help some. Having experimented to see how things are without the driver side headlight?

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Why have more money than brains? Cuz RACE CAR :

are the mounts hard to change? not to be off topic or anything but i was jw cause my are shot to hell lol, as far as your intake it looks good i want a K&N

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BRAP BRAP BRAP nuff said

dude, why not just run an open cone with a big ass filter? from what i've read, the open cone is the best way to go. bends and all that just cause turbulent flow. i'm rockin an open cone and loving it thus far...

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'07 GP Base SD Headers - hv3 - open cone - HPTUNERS user

"run an open cone with a big *** filter". Do you realize that an open cone is considered to be a filter?

If you mean put the cone on the TB with the MAF sensor, then no. I will not do that. You would be drawing in heat directly from the motor, and the crossover on the header. Heatsoak would set in right away with the filter located there. Turbulent flow is hardly a concern with the K&N piping. Why do you think so many people try to isolate the heat from the filter with such contraptions like FWI/ Wizair/K&N kit? It's because heatsoak is an issue, and just because you get a whine doesn't mean your car's performance was improved.

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i just embrace my heat soak lol for now

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BRAP BRAP BRAP nuff said

you do relise that the M90 heats up the air any way? and a cone on the tb vs. in a box does nill for perfomance

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92 LeBaron Convert: Turbo 3L 97 Grand Prix GT 4dr "Frankenstein": L67 4t65 swap
97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

^^ that is new info for me, i'll have to remember that for when i go top swap, it does give performance though if you run an IC and a K$N type filter though right? or does the air filter not really matter? long as its not the box

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BRAP BRAP BRAP nuff said

The intercooler is the only thing that will lower intake air temps enough to make any real difference. The effort into filter to throttle body portion is not worth all this effort.

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'04 GP CompG - 2.6" junk

this is all i was using on the GTX


and the cutlass. the reson for the cutlass was battery location and i already had the filter. a box might have a benifiet on a N/A engine at idle and low speed but that is it

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92 LeBaron Convert: Turbo 3L 97 Grand Prix GT 4dr "Frankenstein": L67 4t65 swap
97 Grand Marquis: Summer DD 99 Grand Prix GTP: Top Swap Beater

Makes sense. Did your car come to life after an intercooler AJ?

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It came to life after the cam and once again after the E85, that's for sure.

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'04 GP CompG - 2.6" junk